Rethinking Drinking

Posted: July 4, 2021 in Uncategorized

I know. I know. I am such a square and am raining on your Independence Day Parade but before you go Joey Chestnut on the keg at the cookout and play with illegal explosive devices, keep a few things in mind.


Alcohol is one of those substances that can have both positive and negative effects on the body, with the latter manifesting much more often.

Yes, getting drunk can make you feel good for a couple of hours, but there are many things going on in the backend, which you simply can’t feel until it’s too late.

In this article, we’re going to give you insight on drinking, how much is too much, what the word “moderation” means, and even, when drinking in moderation can also be bad.

Why Do We Get Drunk?

When consuming alcoholic beverages, your liver starts breaking it down, utilizing a flurry of powerful enzymes.

Enzymes are basically molecules that speed up the rate of the chemical reactions occuring in your body.

The state we refer to as “drunkenness” occurs when you consume alcohol faster than you can break it down.

Now, the body can break down one standard drink per hour and in most cases, people go way above that.

However, given that getting drunk is one of the purposes of drinking alcohol in the first place, an important question comes to mind…

How Much Is Too Much?

Whether we’re talking about alcohol, water, food, or anything else that you put in the body, moderation should be one of your main rules of thumb.

Specifically for alcohol, the dietary guidelines for Americans define drinking in moderation, as having 1 drink and 2 drinks per day, for females and males, respectively.

It is important to note here that a “drink” is usually defined as a 350 ml beer, not a big whiskey!

Certainly, consuming harsh alcohol on a daily basis will manifest alcohol’s side effects much quicker than a beer or two.

When Is Moderation Bad?

If you are generally healthy, and have good nutritional, sleeping and training habits, having alcohol in moderation will have little to no side effects.

However, in certain cases, even low alcohol consumption may have certain side effects.

Try and avoid alcohol, if you:

  • Are about to participate in physical activities
  • Take medication that interacts with alcohol
  • Have a health condition that may worsen with alcohol consumption
  • Find it difficult to control your alcohol intake after you start drinking
  • Are trying to have kids (alcohol may worsen the function of your reproductive system)

Can Alcohol Do You Good?

Though binge drinking is a common practice amongst many age groups, the fact of the matter is that certain alcoholic drinks can actually have some positive effects on the body.

Of course, this is in the context of moderation, on top of healthy overall habits.

Here are the top 2 healthiest alcoholic drinks and their possible positive effects on the body:

1) Red wine

Home-made red wine has certain antioxidants, along with polyphenols, which can promote heart/overall health & protect your cells from damage.

Red wine has been scientifically proven to improve the health of your heart, brain and even bones!

Do you fancy a drink more often? Get yourself a glass of red wine! It also goes well with a steak, so you can’t really go wrong here (unless you have too much).

2) Beer

As you can see, this 2-points list consists of alcoholic beverages that have a low alcohol percentage (~14% for red wine and ~4.5% for beer).

This low alcohol content is a part of the reason why these drinks can have positive effects on your body.

Just like wine, beer has its antioxidants, which are slightly different, due to the fact that beer is derived from barley and hops, instead of grapes.

Nevertheless, antioxidants are always good and in the case of beer, they are especially good for the kidneys.

Got trouble taking a pee? Drink a peer! Oops… Beer*


Alcohol consumption is often linked to binge drinking and a very prominent state of drunkenness.

And while getting piss drunk regularly will inevitably lead to certain side effects, the fact of the matter is that alcohol, in moderation can actually be good for you!

If you are a generally healthy individual, you don’t really have to cut out alcohol altogether.

Just make sure to consume the right alcohol, in the right amounts and always, have it lay on top of some quality, nutritious food!

Have a happy 4th of July. God Bless America. Please be safe both about driving and with the explosives!

Circular Strength is the category of fitness that includes swinging implements like hammers, macebells, clubbells, indian clubs and even kettlebells.

I can hear all the hardstyle guys forming up ranks and calling Pavel to come challenge me to a Secret Service Snatch Test to prove my insolence.

Yes, I said kettlebells belong in the smooth, rhythmic confines of circular strength.

This argument proves my point though. You can lift anything with a hard style. Highland games throws are very hard style versions of circular strength moves.

Benefit One: Strength Endurance

The question is what is best not what you can do. Explosive moves should only be done in small bursts. So, screw those crossfitters that want to do 20 reps of cleans.

Kettlebells are lifted easiest with a swing. They are too light to get Oly benefits. Yes, for some a 32kg bell is a max effort but once you get some practice, it will be a rep max focus.

Consider circular strength to be a more strength endurance focus instead of strength focus. You are not going to do one rep of any swing, circle, cast or mill.

Benefit Two: Range of Motion

Take any Indian Club workout. You are going to let your arms and shoulders move, stretch and reach to places you would never with a dumbbell.

Benefit Three: Coordination

It builds a comfort in your body to loosen up enough to move efficiently while still maintaining the force output to move the weight, change direction, and balance yourself.

Why am I adding it to my clients programs?

For that reason primarily. Sure it isn’t gonna help pack on the muscle mass or burn enough calories to cut inches from your gut.

  • It will loosen up that stress knot in your shoulders and neck.
  • It will open up your shoulders and activate your spinal stabilizers.
  • It will activate your rotator cuff and strengthen those weaknesses.
  • It will work your hands and wrists in ways dumbbells don’t.

If you are interested in learning how to use clubs, maces, or kettlebells, fill out the new client questionnaire and we will get something scheduled.

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So many guys are lost in the gym because they don’t know what the basics of a great training program are. Here are my 5 questions to ask yourself.

I see so many guys floundering in the gym because they make up the exercises that they are going to do right before they step up to the dumbbell rack. If you ask them why they don’t have a program, the answer is I don’t know how to set one up.

First of all, you should hire a trainer. I would be happy to put a program together for you or get you set up on a program on TrainHeroic. But if you are wanting to get your own training plan together. Here are a few things I ask clients when putting their programs together:

  1. What are you training for? This should be obvious but the number of people who read a blog about some cool new training technique (for those of you in my demographic, read in a muscle mag.) and know you need to put it into your workout would amaze you. Conditioning work won’t help you put on mass. Heavy low rep work will make you strong not big. Doing hypertrophy work won’t get you a new bench press max.
  2. What has your training looked like for the past month? There’s an old adage that the best training program is the one you are not on. Now I know I used to use that as an excuse to throw in some cool new technique that I just read about in the muscle magazine (don’t judge me) but that isn’t what it means. You adapt to your training because you get stimulated by it. Once your body gets used to it, it stops responding by growing. Your next training cycle should be different than what you are doing now so it can stimulate the next cycle of growth.
  3. What is the biggest thing holding you back in your training? You can’t run from a weakness. You have to face it, overcome it, and move on. This is what I call a Prep phase. It gets you ready for the next training cycle. When I coach powerlifters, we often start with a Prep phase to develop their rotator cuff muscles. Why? Because they are a weak link in the kinetic chain and will hold us back if they don’t get stronger. Focus your next phase on what you need to do to get ready for your next training phase.
  4. What part of year are you coming into? I like to base my clients training on the time of year. So many times, you can’t be focused on your training because of social obligations, school obligations or family life. Scheduling a cutting cycle between Halloween and New Year’s means facing some of the most tempting foods during the peak time for social gatherings. Mass building during the summer when people want to spend the most time with their shirts off? Pick a training cycle and goal that coincides with your life outside the gym and you will get better results.
  5. What cool new thing did you want to try? Not the smartest idea if you are 8 weeks precontest but if you are in the off-season or are just wanting to train hard without worrying about the long term, this is exactly what you should do. For many it is trying kettlebells, strongman or Olympic lifting. For other’s it might be the program the Rock posted to IG. Either way, this could be the opportunity to try something new.

These are a few things that go into setting up a program. I know it isn’t a numbered plan for a program but I don’t have the answer to those questions for you.

Quick Formula for you guys wanting to build mass: 4 sets of each exercise, 6-10 reps per set, 4-6 exercises per bodypart and hit each bodypart twice a week. Chest and back, shoulders and arms, legs, rest and repeat.

If you don’t want to tinker yourself, set up an appointment on my website,

Your friend in strength,

Rich Kahle

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Clubbell Workout #1

Posted: May 6, 2020 in Uncategorized

This is just a basic workout with no complexes. Each exercise was performed at an urgent but not constant pace.

Kettlebells are great for flow and easy to hold. Clubbells are like holding your kettle bottoms up with two fingers in the dark-easy to swing and hard to hold still.

Warm up with 15 of each exercise on each side:

  • Two Hand Swing
  • Two Hand Side Swing
  • Two Hand Swing to Hike
  • One Hand Swing
  • One Hand Side Swing

Slow exercises are done with the emphasis on control and constant tension. The focus for improvement is in precision and constant tension versus improving weight, speed, or reps. All exercises are done for 5 perfect reps before adding one. 3 sets on each side.

  • Two Hand Front Press
  • Two Hand Side Angle Press
  • Two Hand Pullover to Ready
  • Two Hand 180
  • Two Hand Pullover to Staff

Dynamic exercises are done with that natural tempo that clubs have. The idea isn’t to be sharp and jerky but to find the zen of the swing. All of these exercises were done for 3 sets of 10.

  • Side swing to squat
  • Pullover to Staff Squat
  • Barbarian Squat
  • Alternating Warrior Lunge
  • Good Morning to Front Press

Chaotic Cogitation

Posted: May 6, 2020 in Uncategorized

Bounce over to my other blog for my random musings. The Rich Kahle Project is a combination of personal therapy, expansion of my digital footprint, and a lifestyle blog for a 40-something average guy.

With Covid-19 having impacted the whole world in ways that were unanticipated, society has been wobbling like a drunk staggering out of a bar.  Meatheads were no different.  Gyms were open with no plans of closing on Tuesday.  Wednesday night they closed and have yet to reopen.  Fitness stores look like the toilet paper aisle at Wally World–bare and empty.  No gym.  No weights.  No Gainz.

Then They Were Gone…

Gyms were one of the first businesses to close their doors.  It makes sense that a virus that is spread by close human contact would make gyms a hotzone for transmission.  So, they locked up the Glorious House of Gains and cast us out of Valhalla.

Many had a few dumbbells and barbells stashed for just this occasion. Those that didn’t scrambled to find weights like crazy people hoarding toilet paper and like our dirty bottomed compatriots, the shelves were bare as Mother Hubbard’s Cupboards.

I guess we’re doomed to see our muscles whither away doing endless outdoor cardio and Richard Simmons tapes for eternity.

Just kidding. I got your back.  

Here’s My Top Five Things To Do Without  A Gym:

  1. Work On Your Core.

Burpees.  Just kidding.  It’s this thing. I do very focused reps.  Super strict technique with a focus on holding a vacuum through the whole rep.  They suck worse than burpees.

  1. Work on your grip strength.  

I used to have a crushing grip that was strong enough to deadlift over 400 pounds on a Rolling Thunder deadlift handle. Now, not so much.  I still use my Ivanko-clone supergripper but I can’t max it out.  I don’t know where my old Captains of Crush Gripper disappeared to but I found these on Amazon and bought them to get my hands back in shape.  I got the full set and will outline my training program in another post.  Here’s the link to the beginner’s set.

  1. Use Those Elastic Bands For A Workout

I just ordered these bands for working my back and shoulders from Amazon.

But you can get a total body workout from a basic set of bands that you can pick up at the local supercenter.  I know it doesn’t feel like real iron in your hands but your muscles don’t know the difference.  As long as they are working against resistance, you can make them grow.  Plus, the fact that the force curves are differnet and the muscle recruitment is not the same is a stimulant for growth by itself!

  1. Make an Indian Club (I used this video.)
  1. Use Your Bodyweight For A Workout

Here’s a few of my favorite YouTube channels to follow for some butt kicking workouts.

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Working with a trainer has as many benefits as there are types of clients but here are the top six reasons hiring a trainer can help you:

  1. Keep you accountable to your goals. Once you have hired a personal trainer, you don’t have to do it alone. Just knowing someone is waiting for you can be the motivation you need to workout. Plus, once you have invested in your program, you will want to get the most out of your money, so you will have to put in the work.
  2. Keep you from getting hurt. Learning the correct way to do an exercise is invaluable. Many times people will see an exercise in a book or in an Instagram video and try to put it into their workout. Without proper instruction, most people don’t get their form right. That doesn’t just mean they aren’t getting the benefit they want but they are putting themselves at risk for injury. Having an expert’s eye on you will ensure you are working out in the safest, most effective way you can.
  3. Bring variety your workouts. An experienced trainer has a cache of training methods, programs and plans that they can use with you. While some constancy of training is necessary to get you the results you want, you will be more motivated and interested if you are not simply repeating the same cookie cutter program over and over.
  4. Personalize your program around your needs. Any person over the age of 30 has noticed their body isn’t 16 anymore. Any person over the age of 30 has a life that is often complicated by jobs, kids, and a million other things. Your trainer can design and adapt your training program to meet your life and body.
  5. Help you set inspiring and attainable goals. So many people come into the gym with the latest before and after pictures in their mind. A coach can help you set goals and outline a plan of action to get you there. Along the way, your coach will keep you focused on the goal and help you adjust your plan to keep you on track for success.
  6. Know when to push you and when to reign you in.  A personal trainer will know you better than you know yourself. Sometimes that means calling for those extra reps you might not have done on your own. Other times it will be telling you to take an extra day off for rest or trim a few extra reps or sets off your workout because it just isn’t there.

Whether you want to make fitness your way of life or just fit fitness into your way of life, you will find great benefit working with a personal trainer.

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The Bermuda Triangle of Fitness

Posted: October 31, 2019 in Uncategorized

You know the saying, “Nothing gets done until the last minute?”  Here it is.  Time is ticking down in the fourth quarter and we need to finish strong.

As a powerlifting and weightlifting coach, I talk about training as a long term process.  For seasonal sports, for most other sports, the timeline is shorter.  There are no tomorrows, you have to win now.  But for lifters, it is a multi-year process.  That is not to deny the urgency of today and of your next meet. It is just that there are no radical improvements between meets.  Lifts go up but it is rare to have a jump of epic proportions.

Your life is just the same.  It is a long term process.  That is the point of future casting.  10 year goals, 5 year goals, 1 year goals.  Those are all far enough out they are not put in jeopardy by one bad day or week.  Hell, even a whole month is not fatal to those goals.

However, no matter your vision, you won’t achieve jack crap if you don’t move your John Brown hind parts and work hard today and everyday.

What does that have to do with the Bermuda Triangle?  The next 9 weeks are the Bermuda Triangle of Fitness Goals.  It’s cooling off.  You’re not wearing a bathing suit until some time next year.  You are wearing pants more than shorts. (Okay, Arizoners, you don’t own pants but the rest of the country is cooling off.) There are more distractions coming.  Plus the holiday landmines that sink more ships than the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Halloween and the bags of candy.  Thanksgiving and the smorgasbord of food.  Then it is Christmas season with parties, cookies, and more big dinners.  Is it a surprise we all end up lost on our fitness journey like Flight 19?  Then in January we assume we are going to just turn it around and make this year the year we get in shape, lose the weight, make more money and make this the best year ever!

Realistically, is that going to happen if you spend the next 60 days doing all the wrong things?  How easy is it to suddenly start meal planning and prepping?  How easy is it to roll your happy ass back into the gym and bust it like Gallagher with a watermelon?  How easy is it to do anything in an instant?

It is not.  When you were in Ms. Kirby’s English class as a dumbshit freshman, what did she tell you about writing a paper?  Have a rough draft.  When you were in Ms. Jensen’s Junior High PE class and you learned to serve a volleyball, what did she tell you about it?  You need to practice before you can be good.

That is why we are going to make the next 60 days about practice and attack those goals.  Build those habits now and succeed with those goals in the new year!

Four Diets, One Day’s Meals

Posted: September 24, 2018 in Uncategorized

I get peppered with questions on a regular basis about eating properly.  Now, as a bodybuilding and physique coach, I regularly move clients between systems depending on what their body is doing.  So, I frequently get the question “I want to start eating keto/paleo/macros/low fat/low carb/magazine crazy diet of the week style.  How can I change my diet to fit that plan?”

Well, we’re going to start with four diets I use on a regular basis.  We’re gonna keep the calories about the same in each one of them for you to see how each one progresses.  For a high-carb diet I recommend what I call the 3-2-1 Diet.  Since I learned this diet from Dr. Squat, Fred Hatfield, I also refer to it as the Hatfield diet.  For what I call the balanced plan, I use a split of macros from the Macrobolic Diet.  45% carbs, 35% protein, 20% fat.  This is a lower carb version of the 3-2-1 whose macros split out at 60%, 30%, 10%.

Next, we’ll compare that to Paleo.  For those that don’t know any CrossFitters, Paleo operates on the premise that you shouldn’t eat anything that a caveman couldn’t.  I always refer to it as the Hunt It/Find It diet.  One of the authors I frequently read calls it the Green Faces diet.  There are two rules:  If it has a face (you can hunt it.)you can eat it.  If it grows green in the ground (you can find it), you can eat it.  Great concept and cool marketing but the crux of the diet is that whole, natural foods are nutritious and it is harder to over eat than processed meals and flour based baked goods.

Lastly, we’ll take it all the way to Keto.  Keto is just a short version of ketosis.  Now, I have chased this rabbit down its hole and know the difference between a ketogenic diet and the latest version called the Keto Diet.  This comparison is just for ketogenic diets not the Keto Diet.  This includes the ever popular Atkins diet.

Take a basic breakfast for the Hatfield plan:

  • Egg whites
  • Oatmeal
  • Apples
  • Skim Milk

To push this to a Macrobolic meal, swap the egg whites for whole eggs and/or add a little cheese.  You will have to adjust the amounts of oatmeal and milk to compensate for adding some fat calories in place of the carbohydrate.

To make it Paleo, drop the oats.  Add more fruit or baked sweet potato.  Some people would argue that oats grow wild and are whole food.  I don’t follow this rule because I consider grains to be farmed and farming isn’t paleo.

To go Keto, drop the apples, fruit and skim milk.  Switch the egg whites for whole eggs.  Add bacon or sausage.  Add cheese.

This article assumes you know to adjust the amounts to keep them the same on calories.  On Paleo and keto, there are no macros to assess but total calories are still a factor.

Here’s a Hatfield lunch option:

  • Grilled Chicken Breast
  • Pasta
  • Green Salad
  • Skim Milk

This is a Macrobolic meal as soon as you adjust the amounts of pasta to fit the 45-35-20 plan.  I would also swap the chicken breast for chicken thighs to add a little fat to make the macros.

Drop the skim milk and use a lentil pasta.  Bang, it is a Paleo meal.  (Yes, I include beans and peas on Paleo even though they are a staple crop.  Beans and lentils are not processed and have a lower glycemic index than most fruits and many vegetables.)

Drop the milk and the pasta.  Use full skin chicken thighs and you are on keto.   Bonus, you can cook the chicken in butter.

For Dinner,

  • Baked Sole or Mahi-Mahi
  • Baked Potato
  • Green Salad
  • Skim Milk

To make this Macrobolic, switch the lean fish for a fattier fish like salmon.  Add butter or sour cream to your potato.

To make it Paleo, drop the milk.

To make it Keto, cook it in butter.  Add cauliflower topped with cheese instead of baked potato.

You see, it’s simple.  Make some swaps and you move between diets easily.  The ability to swap foods will allow you to eat out, cook for the family even if they are not on the program, and know what to pick at the next cookout.

One of my clients loves the Slam energy shots and says she won’t drink the 5-Hour Energy shots because they make her feel funny.  She asked me why I thought that happened.  Now, this is just my opinion and not the opinion of Advocare or anyone else, so don’t argue with them if you don’t agree with me.

These two products are designed to fill the same niche in the food chain.  Small, quick nutrition shot that wakes you up and gives you a steady stream of energy for the next few hours.  Let’s look at the similarities:

  • Both contain caffeine but at different levels.  5-hour is 200 mg and Advocare Slam is 120 mg.
  • Both contain vitamin B-6 and but, again, at different levels.  Pyridoxine for the Slam is at 10 mg and 5-Hour is at 40 mg.
  • Both contain Folic Acid at different levels.  100mcg in the Slam and 400mcg in the 5-Hour.
  • Both contain the same 500mcg of vitamin b-12.

Also, the energy blends contain similar ingredients but how they are presented tell you everything.  Advocare Slam tells you the amounts of each ingredient you get in a bottle while 5-Hour energy uses a “proprietary blend” with only the total of the “secret ingredient” not individual amounts.

This is a tactic used across the supplement industry that I absolutely can’t stand and is an immediate red flag on a product.  The way the law is written, a company can use a proprietary blend as long as they list all of the ingredients in the blend.  Usually this is done to be able to market to you that they contain cool, powerful ingredients but hide the fact that it as such a low level that it won’t have an effect.  This is what I call the Golden Seawater.  (There is gold flakes in common sea water but not enough to make it worth processing to get it out.)

On this note, how the two companies handle another ingredient is why I truly believe in Advocare.  This ingredient is malic acid.  Malic acid is widely used as a food additive to simulate the flavor of tart or sour fruit.  It is frequently added to nutritional supplements for that reason.  Often it is what makes your sour gummies sour.  It has little if any benefit to human metabolism (although it does appear in the citric acid cycle).

Why then do companies include it in proprietary blends, like it is in the 5-Hour energy shot?  Simple, to add bulk to the blend without increasing the cost.  Blends hide the small amounts of good stuff in a “super-duper dose of mega-mix” and I wonder if here is no exception.

You will find malic acid as part of the Advocare Slam as well but it is listed on the Ingredients list not as part of the energy blend.  Why?  Because it is being used as a flavor additive not filler.

This is why I am not comparing the energy ingredients head to head.  Both products contain Taurine, Tyrosine, Glucuronolactone, and  caffeine.  It isn’t a good comparison because the 5-hour energy has more malic acid than tyrosine.

5-hour contains a couple things as part of it’s blend as well.  Phenylalanine, a precursor to artificial sweeteners that may have some cognitive benefits, and citicholine, a component of cell membranes that may benefit brain health.  I have not researched these ingredients in depth but both are in lower amounts in the blend than malic acid.  Again, I have trouble with the fact that the amount is hidden in the “proprietary blend” and not just listed in the supplement facts.

Slam contains a few things that make it unique.  These things might be what, in my opinion, makes it more effective than other products without using as much caffeine.

It contains betaine in the form of Trimethylglycine.  It is a cool product used widely throughout the body to catalyze many other reactions.  From Wikipedia:

TMG is an important cofactor in methylation, a process that occurs in every cell of mammals to synthesize and donate methyl groups(CH3) for other processes in the body. These processes include the synthesis of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin. Methylation is also required for the biosynthesis of melatonin and the electron transport chain constituent coenzyme Q10.

The other major ingredient difference is that Slam contains L-carnitine.  Without getting too science club nerdy on you, carnitine is what transports the fatty acids into the powerhouses of the muscles to burn more fat for energy.  So, if you don’t have enough carnitine you won’t lose fat.  Michael Colgan, the expert of experts on sports nutrition, puts so much importance on L-carnitine that he made one of his rules for permanent fat loss: Maintain l-carnitine status.

So, where in that does it explain my clients feeling funny after a 5-hour energy shot but not after a Slam?  Honestly, I don’t think any of those differences are why even though Slam has more active nutritional ingredients and less caffeine.  It is because of the first ingredient on the 5-hour energy label.  Niacin.

Niacin is in most preworkout and energy products because it causes skin flushing.  I consider it a red herring ingredient.  Yes, it has valid nutritional uses but here it is just to make you “feel” the effect right away but is irrelevant to you having and producing more energy.

Both products work.  A cup of coffee’s worth of caffeine will wake you up but do you want to get stimulation from more caffeine or do you want a product that will really make you have more energy?  It’s up to you but I know what I choose.